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whatif Sweet and Sour
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| Subject: NJ shooting, Gun restriction and mental health Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:33 pm | |
| http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/07/mass-shootings-map That's an interactive map on mass murders around the country and statistics on the murdered. Over 80 percent purchased guns legally, over 50 percent committed suicide on site, and most had complaints of mental health issues before the incidents.
What do you guys think about all this? RIP to the children and adults murdered.. |
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JesterDon IVVVI Moderator
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| Subject: Re: NJ shooting, Gun restriction and mental health Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:00 pm | |
| Not very knowledgeable in either gun control legislation or access to mental health care, but what I imagine would be beneficial is needing to prove that you are mentally stable to purchase a gun, and making it easier to get access to mental health care. |
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Chainy Apolcalypse Survivor
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| Subject: Re: NJ shooting, Gun restriction and mental health Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:08 pm | |
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JesterDon IVVVI Moderator
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| Subject: Re: NJ shooting, Gun restriction and mental health Sun Dec 16, 2012 5:31 pm | |
| - Chainy wrote:
- stricter laws
On what, and how much stricter? |
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Einsteinean Co-Administrator
Posts : 2567 Age : 49 Fuji Bucks™ : 7326 Reputation : 52
| Subject: Re: NJ shooting, Gun restriction and mental health Sun Dec 16, 2012 6:30 pm | |
| Make mental health care more readily available. And Dan, while I would fully support the proving mental health to purchase a gun, people oftentimes just snap and go from being completely sane to being completely insane in an instant.
The sad truth is there's no one magical answer. What I would support is taking all of our military veterans that can't find work, arm them and have them serve as school security guards in elementary and middle schools. We arm ourselves to protect property; why not our future? |
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Victoria Fuji Imp
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| Subject: Re: NJ shooting, Gun restriction and mental health Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:55 am | |
| ""You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you kn ow the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.
CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.
You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem." |
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Chainy Apolcalypse Survivor
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| Subject: Re: NJ shooting, Gun restriction and mental health Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:33 pm | |
| - JesterDon IVVVI wrote:
- Chainy wrote:
- stricter laws
On what, and how much stricter? On buying guns, so strict that it will be made nearly impossible to buy them, mental health tests required, etc. Would scare off a lot of people and make it a lot safer as well. |
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Einsteinean Co-Administrator
Posts : 2567 Age : 49 Fuji Bucks™ : 7326 Reputation : 52
| Subject: Re: NJ shooting, Gun restriction and mental health Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:30 pm | |
| - Victoria wrote:
- ""You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here's why.
It's because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you kn ow the name of a single victim of Columbine? Disturbed people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he'll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.
CNN's article says that if the body count "holds up", this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer's face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer's identity? None that I've seen yet. Because they don't sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you've just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.
You can help by forgetting you ever read this man's name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem." God Bless Morgan Freeman. |
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